JJ Abrams new Star Trek movie...

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that's too bad. honestly, the trailers haven't really caught my attention. it doesn't even look like star trek, there's nary a recognizable starfleet uniform to be seen. i will probably try to see it in the theater but it wasn't an opening weekend must like IM3 was.
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I'm trying to avoid spoilers/reviews until I see it tomorrow.
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I'm hearing a lot of what I heard with Iron Man 2. People pissing and moaning about it when it probably isn't anywhere near as bad as they say. I was supposed to go on Friday but got sidetracked. Hopefully I'll make it by Wednesday.



As for spoilers, I'm assuming one is going to be as big of a surprise as Marion Cotillard's role in The Dark Knight Rises. Ya know, not a surprise at all.
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I'm not saying it will be bad. Just that I'm only hearing bad from the people whose opinions I trust. Most of whom loved the first Abrams Trek movie.

Most of the criticism seems to center around a large part of it apparently being a shot-by-shot recreation of The Wrath of Khan, only with Kirk and Spock reversed. Which, I guess, would be equivalent to a Star Wars reboot where someone goes back and kills Qui-Gon before he can discover Anakin, and Anakin never becomes a Jedi but somehow becomes Vader through other means, and somehow it leads almost instantly into a remake of the final duel in Empire Strikes Back, but with Han being Vader's son.

Also, lots of complaints about excessive lens flares. And not jokes about them. A few people have told me there are unnecessary lens flares in every scene or close to it, which seems bad since you'd think they'd address this after it being a minor complaint in the first reboot.
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I have no intention of seeing it, but I've heard people talking about it on the radio. Overall they thought it was great, but there were a few things they complained about. They didn't give spoilers, but here is what they said:

There were some big plot holes. They didn't use technology consistently. For example, they could have teleported somewhere, but instead they took a ship because it would was more dramatic. They didn't even try to make excuses on why they couldn't use the teleporter like the tv series did.
That said, it supposedly looks great in IMAX 3D.
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I was thoroughly entertained. I think it did a fair job of subverting expectations concerning a certain villain. I think the complaining stems from people looking at the entire Trek Mythos as a whole and not thinking about the constraints of storytelling within one film. And I can only assume whoever said its a shot-for-shot remake of Wrath of Khan haven't watched this film, or more likely never watched Wrath of Khan. Apart from one plot point, which one could argue was done more as symbolic reflection of the OTHER 1st Trek sequel, there's hardly anything in common between the two films. And that scene, even knowing its eventual resolution in the film(which is obviously telegraphed in advance) was still satisfactory on an emotional level between the two characters.

And the 'no beaming' thing was explained in both instances it wasn't used. The first was them not wanting to announce to everybody they were Starfleet. And the second prolonged lack of use was that the ship had been shot all to shit and nothing was working. People need to actually pay attention while watching a film and not just be looking for things to bitch about to gain anti-pop culture cred with their buddies.

This film is just as good as the first one. I enjoyed them both. I liked it better than IM3.
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Hahahahahaha!!!

Wow. I know a majority of you are Trek haters or Trek-I-really-don't-give-a-shitters,
But coming to you as someone who actually enjoys Trek I can honestly say...

What the fuck was that?? That was the least Star Trek-y trailer I've ever seen.
That looked like a straight to video SyFy movie trailer. You can't just make a movie and then slap the word Star Trek on it as an afterthought. There are RULES.

Yikes. I thought the TMNT2 trailer was better looking than this thing.

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I love the use of the traditional Star Trek theme music.
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That was a callback to the first Abrams Trek movie when adolescent Kirk steal his stepdad's vintage convertible and takes it for a joyride. Sabotage is playing on the radio.

Most people thought its inclusion in the first film was an Easter egg referring to the classic Shatner meltdown on correctly pronouncing the word sabotage. But Abrams said it wasn't.
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me: "what? how is this..."

computer screen: "from the director of Fast & Furious."

me: "oh, gotcha."
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I'm in. These Star Trek flicks are fun and entertaining - you know, the polar opposite of old Star Trek.
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Tom Foolery wrote:That was a callback to the first Abrams Trek movie when adolescent Kirk steal his stepdad's vintage convertible and takes it for a joyride. Sabotage is playing on the radio.
I know, but it still seems really damn odd. At least Zefram Cochrane listening to Steppenwolf had some purpose to it.
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So, I saw Star Trek Beyond today. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

And I have to say, the art design and production design of the Yorktown Space Station was fucking amazeballs.
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As an employee of Walmart, I get Walmart+ for free. (Walmart+ is Walmart’s competetive answer to Amazon Prime; buy an annual subscription, get discounts, free shipping, yadda yadda). Walmart+ just partnered with Paramount+, so now I also get an extra streaming service for free.

That was a roundabout way of saying I can watch all the newer Star Trek shows like Lower Decks, Discovery, etc. I’m actually looking forward to Picard.
There’s also a variety of movies in case I can’t find something to watch on my four other streaming services.

No joke, I will flip to a service, scroll thru their library for 5-10 minutes, then repeat the process three more times and waste the better part of an hour before I give up and watch Princess Bride for the eight time this year.
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I'm not much of a Trek fan, but I watched a bit of TNG.
I started Picard, but trailed off part way through the first season. It wasn't bad, but other dog grabbed my attention more. I'll try and get back to it.
I've heard mixed things about Discovery and great things about Strange New Worlds, so I might try those eventually.
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